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![]() "johnny-knowall" wrote in message news.com... On 20 May 2018, tim... wrote (in article ): "johnny-knowall" wrote in message news.com... On 19 May 2018, tim... wrote (in article ): "7" wrote in message ... johnny-knowall wrote: tim... wrote: Londinistan has all 3 electric car charging stations installed in the last 5 years. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -- ----- I've seen all 3 electric car charging stations installed in the last 5 years. except that there is somewhat nearer 300, than 3 Wow all 300 for 8 million people. The majority of which do not own an electric vehicle Let me fix that for you troll... The majority of which will be 100% electric vehicle owners by law soon or be without cars. government wishful thinking that they will have to back track on before the date arrives. Government simply don't have the resources to install a charging station outside of every house in all suburban streets that don't have off road parking Why not? There are street lights in suburbia, so the power cables must be there already. The only thing they need to add is the charger. even if the power supply to the lighting isn't limited, which many think that it is 1) lamps are far less frequent that one per house 2) It isn't as simple as just adding a plug to the lighting housing The charger is a substantial bit of kit to stop someone hacking into it, and it has to includes a mechanism for charging the user Well yes, I understand that - but surely all it takes is the willpower to get on with it. no it takes money how much do you think it will cost to install two - three million street chargers to service this "don't have a drive" market? I am sure those companies who manufacture parking meters would love the chance to tender for a charging point based on the basic meter design, with a small scanner for debit card or mobile phone payment. parking meters don't usually have main power connected they are also tiny compared with a commercial electric charger Just because the lamps are well spaced doesn’t mean the charging points have to be. My post was pointing out that the cables are already there. Unfortunately, I know nothing about the supply to street lamps and whether they would be able to cope with higher currents; but it was just a thought. I think it is called practical use of imagination. you are not the first person to have suggested it, thus it is not the first time that I have seen it discussed and better people than me concluded that it is impractical |
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On Sun, 20 May 2018 10:50:33 +0100
"tim..." wrote: "johnny-knowall" wrote in message news.com... On 20 May 2018, tim... wrote (in article ): "johnny-knowall" wrote in message news.com... On 19 May 2018, tim... wrote (in article ): "7" wrote in message ... johnny-knowall wrote: tim... wrote: Londinistan has all 3 electric car charging stations installed in the last 5 years. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -- ----- I've seen all 3 electric car charging stations installed in the last 5 years. except that there is somewhat nearer 300, than 3 Wow all 300 for 8 million people. The majority of which do not own an electric vehicle Let me fix that for you troll... The majority of which will be 100% electric vehicle owners by law soon or be without cars. government wishful thinking that they will have to back track on before the date arrives. Government simply don't have the resources to install a charging station outside of every house in all suburban streets that don't have off road parking Why not? There are street lights in suburbia, so the power cables must be there already. The only thing they need to add is the charger. even if the power supply to the lighting isn't limited, which many think that it is 1) lamps are far less frequent that one per house 2) It isn't as simple as just adding a plug to the lighting housing The charger is a substantial bit of kit to stop someone hacking into it, and it has to includes a mechanism for charging the user Well yes, I understand that - but surely all it takes is the willpower to get on with it. no it takes money how much do you think it will cost to install two - three million street chargers to service this "don't have a drive" market? I am sure those companies who manufacture parking meters would love the chance to tender for a charging point based on the basic meter design, with a small scanner for debit card or mobile phone payment. parking meters don't usually have main power connected they are also tiny compared with a commercial electric charger Just because the lamps are well spaced doesn’t mean the charging points have to be. My post was pointing out that the cables are already there. Unfortunately, I know nothing about the supply to street lamps and whether they would be able to cope with higher currents; but it was just a thought. I think it is called practical use of imagination. you are not the first person to have suggested it, thus it is not the first time that I have seen it discussed and better people than me concluded that it is impractical Take a step further back. When will the extra power stations be built, and with what fuel? -- Joe |
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On 20 May 2018, Joe wrote
(in . com): On Sun, 20 May 2018 10:50:33 +0100 "tim..." wrote: "johnny-knowall" wrote in message news.com... On 20 May 2018, tim... wrote (in article ): "johnny-knowall" wrote in message news.com... On 19 May 2018, tim... wrote (in article ): "7" wrote in message ... johnny-knowall wrote: tim... wrote: Londinistan has all 3 electric car charging stations installed in the last 5 years. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- --- -- -- ----- I've seen all 3 electric car charging stations installed in the last 5 years. except that there is somewhat nearer 300, than 3 Wow all 300 for 8 million people. The majority of which do not own an electric vehicle Let me fix that for you troll... The majority of which will be 100% electric vehicle owners by law soon or be without cars. government wishful thinking that they will have to back track on before the date arrives. Government simply don't have the resources to install a charging station outside of every house in all suburban streets that don't have off road parking Why not? There are street lights in suburbia, so the power cables must be there already. The only thing they need to add is the charger. even if the power supply to the lighting isn't limited, which many think that it is 1) lamps are far less frequent that one per house 2) It isn't as simple as just adding a plug to the lighting housing The charger is a substantial bit of kit to stop someone hacking into it, and it has to includes a mechanism for charging the user Well yes, I understand that - but surely all it takes is the willpower to get on with it. no it takes money how much do you think it will cost to install two - three million street chargers to service this "don't have a drive" market? I am sure those companies who manufacture parking meters would love the chance to tender for a charging point based on the basic meter design, with a small scanner for debit card or mobile phone payment. parking meters don't usually have main power connected they are also tiny compared with a commercial electric charger Just because the lamps are well spaced doesn’t mean the charging points have to be. My post was pointing out that the cables are already there. Unfortunately, I know nothing about the supply to street lamps and whether they would be able to cope with higher currents; but it was just a thought. I think it is called practical use of imagination. you are not the first person to have suggested it, thus it is not the first time that I have seen it discussed and better people than me concluded that it is impractical Take a step further back. When will the extra power stations be built, and with what fuel? Why would extra power stations be needed? UK demand rarely exceeds 30GW overnight, compared to a maximum capacity of ~55GW. |
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On 20 May 2018, tim... wrote
(in article ): "johnny-knowall" wrote in message news.com... On 20 May 2018, tim... wrote (in article ): "johnny-knowall" wrote in message news.com... On 19 May 2018, tim... wrote (in article ): "7" wrote in message ... johnny-knowall wrote: tim... wrote: Londinistan has all 3 electric car charging stations installed in the last 5 years. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- -- -- ----- I've seen all 3 electric car charging stations installed in the last 5 years. except that there is somewhat nearer 300, than 3 Wow all 300 for 8 million people. The majority of which do not own an electric vehicle Let me fix that for you troll... The majority of which will be 100% electric vehicle owners by law soon or be without cars. government wishful thinking that they will have to back track on before the date arrives. Government simply don't have the resources to install a charging station outside of every house in all suburban streets that don't have off road parking Why not? There are street lights in suburbia, so the power cables must be there already. The only thing they need to add is the charger. even if the power supply to the lighting isn't limited, which many think that it is 1) lamps are far less frequent that one per house 2) It isn't as simple as just adding a plug to the lighting housing The charger is a substantial bit of kit to stop someone hacking into it, and it has to includes a mechanism for charging the user Well yes, I understand that - but surely all it takes is the willpower to get on with it. no it takes money how much do you think it will cost to install two - three million street chargers to service this "don't have a drive" market? How much did it cost to install 2 million parking meters? After a while they pay for themselves. I am sure those companies who manufacture parking meters would love the chance to tender for a charging point based on the basic meter design, with a small scanner for debit card or mobile phone payment. parking meters don't usually have main power connected So what? As I have said repeatedly the power cables must be there. Is it beyond the limited intelligence of the average British human to adapt to anything other than what they see already in the street? they are also tiny compared with a commercial electric charger I have a car battery charger in my garage. It is about the size of a shoe-box. Just because the lamps are well spaced doesn’t mean the charging points have to be. My post was pointing out that the cables are already there. Unfortunately, I know nothing about the supply to street lamps and whether they would be able to cope with higher currents; but it was just a thought. I think it is called practical use of imagination. you are not the first person to have suggested it, thus it is not the first time that I have seen it discussed and better people than me concluded that it is impractical Ok. It was only a suggestion. So you have argued that it is a rubbish one. What do you want? A gold star and for me to top myself through public humiliation? Sorry, but you are going to be very disappointed. |
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![]() "johnny-knowall" wrote in message news.com... On 20 May 2018, tim... wrote (in article ): they are also tiny compared with a commercial electric charger I have a car battery charger in my garage. It is about the size of a shoe-box. which you only use on your premises and which you only use when you are in control of the on/off switch street charging stations have to be robust enough to withstand attack from vandals and secure enough for people not to be able to break into them to get their charge up for free Just because the lamps are well spaced doesn’t mean the charging points have to be. My post was pointing out that the cables are already there. Unfortunately, I know nothing about the supply to street lamps and whether they would be able to cope with higher currents; but it was just a thought. I think it is called practical use of imagination. you are not the first person to have suggested it, thus it is not the first time that I have seen it discussed and better people than me concluded that it is impractical Ok. It was only a suggestion. So you have argued that it is a rubbish one. What do you want? A gold star and for me to top myself through public humiliation? Sorry, but you are going to be very disappointed. just you wait and see by the time 2025 is here, and the take up of electric vehicles is not on track for complete obliteration of other vehicles by 2040 (or whatever date they set) TPTB will have to review this nonsense decision that they have taken on a whim, without thinking through how they are actually going to get there A tiny tiny percentage of all new cars are electric only. Aspirations to make that 100% just by waving a magic wand are doomed to failure tim |
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